SRtRC interview the film director Ken Loach
"As long as we pursue wars of intervention, as long as we have an unequal relationship between different countries there will be migration. Migration will give tensions and we have to see the bigger picture and deal with the bigger issues.”
Show Racism the Red Card was lucky enough to be invited to Sixteen Films and have the chance to interview Ken Loach earlier this month.
You can now watch the film on our YouTube channel.
As part of our series of interviews with Writers Against Racism, SRtRC are asking participants about the issue of immigration and how it is discussed in the UK. We asked Ken:
‘What needs to change for a more informed and balanced debate about immigration to take place?’
“I think that there will inevitably be tensions when there is big migration, because the indigenous population will tend to feel threatened. So we shouldn’t be surprised that there are tensions. I think that obviously at one level we need to recognise what we have in common.
“The trade unions need to organise and welcome in migrant workers and demand for them the minimum wage. And the minimum wage needs to be the living wage, so that no-one is living in poverty. We need a programme of full employment, which means that you’ve got to have a planned economy because in this neo-liberal economy you will never get that. So a neo-liberal economy will always look for cheap labour, will look for migrant workers, it will pay them little, that will then cause tensions with indigenous workers who want a proper wage.
“The present economic model will always cause tensions, will always cause problems. I think that migration will come for economic reasons and political reasons so for example in the European Union, we need a different kind of European Union that will have an economic policy that will equalise the wealth of different countries, because if some countries are desperately poor, then of course people will look to travel to find work. So we need a programme of investment in these poor countries on behalf of the people who live there; that is based on common ownership, where the wealth that is generated goes to the people, doesn’t go to big corporations.
“So we need a whole new European Union, we need to stop interventionist wars that cause great migration problems, obviously in the Middle East this is a huge issue now, with people living in refugee camps desperate to escape. As long as we pursue wars of intervention, as long as we have an unequal relationship between different countries there will be migration. Migration will give tensions and we have to see the bigger picture and deal with the bigger issues.”